February 11, 2012


Patriots Daily Mock Draft, Part 2

by Patriots Daily Staff

After a productive first two rounds in yesterday’s post, the PD Mock continues with our Saturday picks (Rounds Four through Seven).

FOURTH ROUND

Greg DoyleAndre Roberts, WR, The Citadel. As Scott indicated yesterday, Roberts is a polished, professional sounding receiver with good triangle numbers and production, albeit at a lower college

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level. He can return kicks and is fearless as a receiver. I did see him drop an easy pass in the Senior Bowl, but that could happen to anyone. As an alternative and since I’ll be selecting another receiver later, I’m very partial to UCLA’s CB Alterraun Verner who may not have the greatest speed numbers, but was very productive in college and is a playmaker at cornerback.

Chris Warner: That’s makes three of us for Mr. Roberts. What’s not to like? Good 40 (4.4), very strong shuttle numbers, plus a metric ton of versatility (returner, running back, Wildcat QB), make him an intriguing, low-risk pick here.

Scott Benson: You guys will lose out on Roberts if you wait until the fourth. Remember where you heard that. Anyway, I haven’t read more than a stitch on this year’s late round prospects, so I’m afraid I can’t help much with the picks today. Where I may be of assistance is in highlighting some of the third day players that the Pats have either worked out privately, or hosted for a Foxborough visit over the past several weeks. I’ll slot them per Pro Football Weekly’s most recent draft value chart. Fourth round prospect visits included DE Daniel Te’o-Nesheim and LB Donald Butler; private workouts included DT Arthur Jones, CB Dominique Franks, RB Jonathan Dwyer, WR Scott Long, and QB Mike Kafka. There’s always a chance that one of them will wind up being the pick here.

FIFTH ROUND

Chris: Okay, I’ll go ahead and pair this with a third-rounder for 2009 Derrick Burgess… (Damnit!)

Scott: Maybe the Pats will end up replacing that fifth rounder after all, Chris. If they do, they may be targeting Foxborough visitors like DE Hall Davis or RB’s Monatrio Hardesty and Charles Scott; or perhaps a player they privately worked out like DT Corey Peters. I’ll also note Kam Chancellor here; Greg liked him much higher, but Pro Football Weekly is anticipating a 5th round slot for the big safety.

SIXTH ROUND

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GregSherrick McManis, CB, Northwestern-McManis is a good zone corner that the Patriots have reportedly shown interest in. He reminds me a bit of Asante Samuel coming out of college and has room to grow.

Chris: I like McManis, but find myself intrigued by running back Deji Karim of Southern Illinois to continue the reconstruction of New England’s backfield. Kevin Faulk signed a one-year deal. Karim is small, strong and quick, and would benefit from Faulk’s tutelage – especially in pass protection. Originally I had him as a seventh-rounder, but an exceptional pro day (4.4 in the 40) bumped him up a round.

GregScott Sicko, TE, UNH. Sicko is a very productive college tight end who played at a lower level but was extremely productive. Known for his outstanding hands, he has improved hisstanding this post-season with great 40 times at his Pro Day. He is a hard-working kid who has the athletic ability to become a good NFL tight end and may just need to bulk up slightly.

Chris: Because I address tight end concerns in Round 7, I’m going with UCLA linebacker Reggie Carter. We like Reggie, and not just because he gave PD our first interview this season. He’s tough, strong (31 reps of 225 at his pro day), and has leadership qualities (elected a captain of the defense at the East-West Shrine Game). An under-the-radar guy who will bolster special teams.

Scott: In this range, the Pats may also be looking at OT Nic Richmond, who they worked out, or RB James Starks and S Kurt Coleman, who both got special attention from New England after their respective pro days.

Chris: Because the Pats have close to a million picks in the seventh, let’s just put them out there in a bunch. You first, Greg.

SEVENTH ROUND

Greg: (229) Zac Robinson, QB, Oklahoma State. A productive college quarterback who is tough and can move effectively in the pocket.

(231) Darius Marshall, RB, Marshall. A good college back with a nice size/speed combination and some power behind him.

(247) Thomas Welch, OT, Vanderbilt. Athletic former tight end works hard and is smart. Only been a lineman for a few years and plenty of room to improve.

(248) Steven Turner, WR, Bishops Queen College (Canada). Who, you say? A truly under the radar player who caused a buzz when he was at the CFL Evaluation Camp (The CFL’s equivalent of the Combine) and shattered records for that camp by running a 4.31/40. Also posted numbers in other tests that would have placed him near the top of the wide receiver class at the NFL Combine. Suddenly, the NFL wanted to know who this guy was. Well, he’s a pure burner and project with the skills to develop. He wasn’t overly productive in college, but then again, he’s playing with guys at quarterback who aren’t that talented. He did show some skills as a kick returner. His times could make him as high as a 4th round pick and a month ago even NFL scouts hadn’t heard of him. Says here the Patriots roll the dice on this project.

7(250) Pat Angerer, LB, Iowa. A very productive and quick but undersized kid who works extremely hard and, at the least, will be a great special teams player in the NFL.

Chris: I like ‘em. Robinson would be an interesting guy to watch in camp, while Turner looks like someone worth finding oot more aboot (sorry – couldn’t resist).

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I got mostly offensive-minded in this round, but I’m starting with (229) Brent Bowden, P, Virginia Tech because if the Pats can use a sixth to draft a long-snapper last year, they can use a seventh to secure their punter. Bowden’s one of the best.

(231) Mickey Shuler, TE, Penn State. No one likes the old school more than Bill Belichick, and Shuler reeks of that era: he’s a blocking TE who sees himself as a receiver, with an NFL vet father.

(247) Chris Maragos, S, Wisconsin. If you have speed and quickness as a safety, great. If you have brains, even better. Maraga has them all and would, at the very least, add to the special teams unit.

(248) Jameson Konz, TE, Kent State. This round’s the best time to take a chance on a player, and considering the Patriots got Julian Edelman here last year, I’m heading back to Kent State for a receiver/athlete type.

(250) Bill Cundiff, QB, Ashland. I’m stealing your guy, Greg. I like his 24 TDs vs. one interception. Those are great numbers at any level, even Pop Warner (no relation).

Scott: I’m just thinking of how exhausted we are every spring after tracking 250+ draft picks; it’s the only time of the year when I don’t want any more football. That only lasts a few hours, though, because by the next day I’m combing the web for UDFA signings. Anyway DE Chris McCoy was the only site visit in this range, but workouts included DE’s Antonio Coleman and Alex Daniels; DT’s Aleric Mullins and Ricardo Matthews; LB Matt Mayberry; CB’s Nolan Carroll and Robert McClain; FB Manase Tonga; QB’s Zac Robinson (mentioned earlier by Greg) and Rusty Brown; and G Phil Costa and C Jim Cordle. The Pats also visited with UMass receiver Jeremy Horne after his recent pro day.

Chris: So, readers, give us your picks in the comment section below. We’ll pay special attention to the under-the-radar guys New England should take – be the first on your block to say “I told you so!”

Q&A With Ashland QB Bill Cundiff

by Greg Doyle, Patriots Daily Staff Writer

Bill Cundiff is a small school quarterback who had a great year for Division II Ashland in Ohio. He threw 24 TDs and just 1 INT and was the player of the year in his conference. He started out at UConn and transferred back to his home in Ohio at Ashland and had a great career there. He’ll be working out at the Ohio State Pro Day and has a chance to be drafted and will be looked at by many NFL teams looking to give a chance to a young, small school quarterback in their camp.

Hi Bill. You started out at UConn and left there, what made you transfer to Ashland?

I left UConn due to the fact that I was homesick. Looking back I know it was not the right move to make and I kind of laugh at why I left from time to time, but it was a good life lesson that I can now reflect on. I know I could have had a good career there, but everything has worked out for me so I try to look forward and not backward.

Did you play any other sports growing up?

I played basketball. When I was young basketball was actually the sport that I excelled in the most. As high school came around I began to get better at football and that’s where most of my attention turned to.

Who was your favorite team?

My favorite team is unfortunately the Cleveland Browns. Being from Akron Cleveland is only about 40 minutes away so I am a big Cleveland fan in every sport. It is tough being a Cleveland fan but I hope it will pay off soon here with the Cavs.

Your offensive coordinator this year, Mike Bath, was a pretty successful college QB and played in Canada and the Arena League I believe. What did you learn from him?

He taught me a lot about the game. He was my 5th QB coach of my college career and I learned a lot from all of the coaches I had. Since he came in my senior year he did not try to change a lot of things about how i play, so he really asked what I felt I needed work on and he helped me to excel in those areas. I am grateful for this because those were areas that i needed to get better at and some coaches sometimes want a player to change how they are as a player in some ways and he did not.

What kind of offense did you run with Ashland this year?

We ran a pro style offense where we were under center a great deal of the game. We would be in the gun sometimes too, but most of the time it would be on known passing downs.

You only had one interception this year, how did you pull that off?

I attest the one interception to how I was brought up as a player. I was taught never to make a throw that you are not sure about, but always be sure where you are going to go. I also think that my accuracy has a good deal to do with it because there are sometimes when you have to fit a ball into a small window, and do it effectively.

Do you remember what happened on that play?

My interception happened on a screen play where one of our running backs swung out to the left. I threw the ball and it ended up bouncing off his hands then his face mask into a defensive lineman’s hands. We redeemed ourselves on the same play later in the game and scored on it.

I believe you are doing your pro day workout at Ohio State? What are you doing to prepare for it?

I am doing my pro day at Ohio State, and right now I am in Charlotte, NC training with a group of guys right now. My agent has had us all down here since the 2nd of January.

I heard Bill Belichick say this year in his opinion accuracy and intelligence were the most important qualities a QB can have, even more so than arm strength, how do you stack up on those two qualities in your opinion?

I feel that these two are my strongest abilities. My numbers alone back this statement up, but I feel to be a good quarterback one must study the game more than he thinks he has to. If you know what the defense is going to give you then sometimes it feels like you’re out their throwing against no defense.

Arm strength has to be somewhat important in the NFL though, do you think you have a strong arm?

Before I got to North Carolina for training I was not sure of my arm strength because I always compared myself to other D2 quarterbacks. Now that I am here though I know I have a strong arm because the guys that I am throwing to and the guys that are working with us have commented on my arm consistently. We have also worked with current and ex-NFL players and they have also said that I have an NFL arm.

I watched some (Facebook) video and it looked like you threw well on the move. Is this something you like to do? Do you agree its a strength of yours?

As a junior I did not throw as well as I would like to on the run, so in the offseason leading to my Senior year that is one area of my game that I worked on. Now I feel that it is a strength of mine.

How hard do you think it’ll be to adjust from a small school to an NFL style offense?

I know that the game will be a lot faster coming from a Division 2 school to the NFL, but just like in high school transitioning to college a quarterback must watch a lot of film and know the offense inside and out. Now i know that it will still be a major adjustment for me, but the more sure I am of the offense and what kind of defenses I will be facing the easier the transition will be for me.

Sometimes its the little things that can help a small school prospect stick, have you ever done any kick holding?

I have never done any in games, but I did some in practice when i was younger, but as I grew as a quarterback my coaches never wanted to put me back there.

Have you followed the success of the New England Patriots in the last decade or so? Any thoughts on them?

I have definitely followed their success and for any NFL fan it is hard to miss. I feel they are one of the best run franchises in the league with a good front office and coaching staff. It doesn’t hurt to have one of the greatest QBs of all time either.

There is an NFL kicker named Billy Cundiff, any relation?

(Laughs.) I get this question a lot, but as far as I know I do not think he is related to me. Cundiff is not a common name though so their might be a chance that we are.

Thanks Bill for talking to us. Good luck in your Pro Day and career.

I appreciate you doing this and look forward to reading the interview.