Comments on: Shuffled Out Of Buffalo http://www.patriotsdaily.com/2008/12/shuffled-out-of-buffalo/ New England Patriots Blog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:31:29 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Bruce Allen http://www.patriotsdaily.com/2008/12/shuffled-out-of-buffalo/comment-page-1/#comment-5014 Bruce Allen Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:21:24 +0000 http://www.patriotsdaily.com/?p=1647#comment-5014 Leave it to a Jets fan to brag about knocking the Patriots out of the playoffs with one of the more memorable late season choke jobs in recent memory. Leave it to a Jets fan to brag about knocking the Patriots out of the playoffs with one of the more memorable late season choke jobs in recent memory.

]]> By: Bruce Allen http://www.patriotsdaily.com/2008/12/shuffled-out-of-buffalo/comment-page-1/#comment-5013 Bruce Allen Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:21:13 +0000 http://www.patriotsdaily.com/?p=1647#comment-5013 Leave it to a Jets fan to brag about knocking the Patriots out of the playoffs with one of the more memorable late season chock jobs in recent memory. Leave it to a Jets fan to brag about knocking the Patriots out of the playoffs with one of the more memorable late season chock jobs in recent memory.

]]> By: Dan http://www.patriotsdaily.com/2008/12/shuffled-out-of-buffalo/comment-page-1/#comment-5012 Dan Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:31:10 +0000 http://www.patriotsdaily.com/?p=1647#comment-5012 Thanks for the clarification, STI. I thought that when the ball was touched by the recieving team it instantly became "live," meaning that the same rules would apply as would with a fumble. I thought I was missing something when the Pats didn't use a challenge because the touch by McKelvin was so obvious and a safety would have provided a huge swing in the game at that point. I'd be suprised if I was the only one looking for an explaination after they returned from the timeout with Buffalo ready to go at the 20. Thanks for the clarification, STI. I thought that when the ball was touched by the recieving team it instantly became "live," meaning that the same rules would apply as would with a fumble. I thought I was missing something when the Pats didn't use a challenge because the touch by McKelvin was so obvious and a safety would have provided a huge swing in the game at that point. I'd be suprised if I was the only one looking for an explaination after they returned from the timeout with Buffalo ready to go at the 20.

]]> By: STI http://www.patriotsdaily.com/2008/12/shuffled-out-of-buffalo/comment-page-1/#comment-5011 STI Mon, 29 Dec 2008 08:08:36 +0000 http://www.patriotsdaily.com/?p=1647#comment-5011 Dan--the definition of a safety depends on "impetus." In order to score a safety, the impetus that puts the ball into the end zone must be made by the offensive team. In this case, the impetus was the Patriots' punt, not a play by the Bills, so the result could not be a safety. [For there to be a safety, the Bills would have had to bring the ball out of the end zone and then have it come back in.] Dan–the definition of a safety depends on "impetus." In order to score a safety, the impetus that puts the ball into the end zone must be made by the offensive team. In this case, the impetus was the Patriots' punt, not a play by the Bills, so the result could not be a safety. [For there to be a safety, the Bills would have had to bring the ball out of the end zone and then have it come back in.]

]]> By: Dan http://www.patriotsdaily.com/2008/12/shuffled-out-of-buffalo/comment-page-1/#comment-5008 Dan Mon, 29 Dec 2008 06:11:23 +0000 http://www.patriotsdaily.com/?p=1647#comment-5008 It didn't end up mattering in the end, but why didn't the Patriots challenge the punt in the first quarter that went off McKlevin? It was obvious from the replays that McKlevin touched the ball, so unless I'm missing something the play should have resulted in a safety since Buffalo recovered the ball in the endzone. Was there a reason why the Pats couldn't challenge that play? The announcers did a very lousy job explaining that play even after they returned from commercial break. It didn't end up mattering in the end, but why didn't the Patriots challenge the punt in the first quarter that went off McKlevin? It was obvious from the replays that McKlevin touched the ball, so unless I'm missing something the play should have resulted in a safety since Buffalo recovered the ball in the endzone. Was there a reason why the Pats couldn't challenge that play? The announcers did a very lousy job explaining that play even after they returned from commercial break.

]]> By: BIf Of Amesbury http://www.patriotsdaily.com/2008/12/shuffled-out-of-buffalo/comment-page-1/#comment-5007 BIf Of Amesbury Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:51:28 +0000 http://www.patriotsdaily.com/?p=1647#comment-5007 Chris, even though I like the future prospects for the defense, I think they still gotta load up in the draft on D. It's trite but true: defense wins CHAMPIONSHIPS. The 3 SB wins earlier in the decade did not feature lights-out, pinball machine offenses; the defense came up big time and again. I think the offense is set for a bit, with the right amount of tweaking along the way. I really would like to see them get back to playing frustrating defense -- for the opposing teams that is, not frustrating to us fans! Chris, even though I like the future prospects for the defense, I think they still gotta load up in the draft on D. It's trite but true: defense wins CHAMPIONSHIPS. The 3 SB wins earlier in the decade did not feature lights-out, pinball machine offenses; the defense came up big time and again. I think the offense is set for a bit, with the right amount of tweaking along the way. I really would like to see them get back to playing frustrating defense — for the opposing teams that is, not frustrating to us fans!

]]> By: ChrisW http://www.patriotsdaily.com/2008/12/shuffled-out-of-buffalo/comment-page-1/#comment-5006 ChrisW Mon, 29 Dec 2008 04:57:35 +0000 http://www.patriotsdaily.com/?p=1647#comment-5006 Bif - me, too. Very excited about next season. Curious to see what the focus of the draft ends up being, where Cassel ends up, which free agents come and go, etc. They're still competitive; that's all we can ask for. Bif – me, too. Very excited about next season. Curious to see what the focus of the draft ends up being, where Cassel ends up, which free agents come and go, etc. They're still competitive; that's all we can ask for.

]]> By: Dan http://www.patriotsdaily.com/2008/12/shuffled-out-of-buffalo/comment-page-1/#comment-5005 Dan Mon, 29 Dec 2008 04:35:56 +0000 http://www.patriotsdaily.com/?p=1647#comment-5005 The Pats did themselves in, Justin. We always expect the Jets to lose and Favre to throw mind-boggling interceptions. Both lived up to expectations. The Pats did themselves in, Justin. We always expect the Jets to lose and Favre to throw mind-boggling interceptions. Both lived up to expectations.

]]> By: Bif Of Amesbury http://www.patriotsdaily.com/2008/12/shuffled-out-of-buffalo/comment-page-1/#comment-5004 Bif Of Amesbury Mon, 29 Dec 2008 04:27:52 +0000 http://www.patriotsdaily.com/?p=1647#comment-5004 This does suck this morning, but look at the 49ers run from 1982 - 1995. They won it all five times, which means they didn't win it far more. They were competitive the whole time; that's all you can expect as a fan. I'm positive that the Pats have turned the corner on transitioning the defense to younger, faster guys, and look forward to seeing them perform next year, as well as new leaders emerging. Mayo's run down of Edwards yesterday was a very nice thing to see. I also like what I see from Merriweather. Even though it feels pretty empty this morning, this run ain't over yet. This does suck this morning, but look at the 49ers run from 1982 – 1995. They won it all five times, which means they didn't win it far more. They were competitive the whole time; that's all you can expect as a fan.

I'm positive that the Pats have turned the corner on transitioning the defense to younger, faster guys, and look forward to seeing them perform next year, as well as new leaders emerging. Mayo's run down of Edwards yesterday was a very nice thing to see. I also like what I see from Merriweather.

Even though it feels pretty empty this morning, this run ain't over yet.

]]> By: ChrisW http://www.patriotsdaily.com/2008/12/shuffled-out-of-buffalo/comment-page-1/#comment-5003 ChrisW Mon, 29 Dec 2008 04:14:20 +0000 http://www.patriotsdaily.com/?p=1647#comment-5003 What? I don't understand what you're saying. Your intelligent banter is beyond me. What? I don't understand what you're saying. Your intelligent banter is beyond me.

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